Have you ever stopped to think about the passage of time? How it never stops; how it's always moving forward?
It can be a terrifying thought: not ever being able to return to a moment in time, never being able to go backwards, to get something back, but it can also be a powerful motivator.
In this episode, I invite my long-time BFF Katie Meegs to sit down and chat about the essence of time: what even is it?
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[00:00:59] Lindsay: Hello, everyone, and welcome back to Quit Your Job, Sis: Unhinged. And our first episode where I have a guest, but it's not an interview episode. Okay, first of all, just tell the people who you are.
[00:01:14] Katie: I'm Katie. I'm your BFF from, oh god, let's see, fourth grade? Is that right?
[00:01:20] Lindsay: I don't even know. That's probably right.
[00:01:23] Katie: That feels right. Elementary school. I have like a core memory of us sitting on the playground at field day, eating watermelon. And the fly landed on you. This is very hyper specific, I know, but I have a core memory of us sitting together eating watermelon, and the fly landed on your watermelon, and you flipped out about it.
[00:01:40] Lindsay: That sounds very accurate, actually. I don't remember that, but I believe you, so.
[00:01:45] Katie: Okay, all right, well. I could have just made that up. I could just be a stranger on the street.
[00:01:50] Lindsay: Maybe it was a dream.
[00:01:51] Katie: A fever dream, yeah.
[00:01:53] Lindsay: Anyway, Katie's my BFF, but here's how this podcast episode came to be, you guys. So, as you know, this season is unhinged, and so I kind of just will get an idea of something that I really want to talk about on my podcast, and I had this idea for today's episode.
[00:02:12] But there was something about it that I was like, this is not a solo cast. I need this to be a conversation I'm having with somebody else, which I've never had that sense before because I've always just recorded solo casts. And the first person that came to my mind was Katie because she's the only person who I could approach with this topic and she would not just think, I need to be submitted to a mental institution
[00:02:33] Katie: Because I am also unhinged.
[00:02:35] Lindsay: because we share the same brain, but I was like, I don't, I don't know. I'll wait for a sign and see if I should ask her. I go to bed, this was literally like 3 days ago, by the way. I wake up the next morning. I have a Snapchat notification from Katie on my phone. And I'm like, I think this is my sign. So then I present this idea to you and then tell them what was happening on your end.
[00:03:00] Katie: Okay. First of all, absolutely unbelievable because I had had an existential crisis approximately a week before this. And it's about the same topic you then present to me to do a podcast conversation about. And I was like, all right, that's unreal. I thought these were like internal thoughts that I was having on my own, like, Oh, Katie, maybe don't share those with anyone, not even your best friend.
[00:03:22] In comes Lindsay, ready to talk about it. Completely unprepared, unwarranted, un, I don't know, unhinged, I guess. And then this is all while I'm at the gym, right? And so I'm listening to a podcast while I'm at the gym. And fleeting thought runs through my brain, because it's like a PR episode; I'm like, you know, it would be fun to be on a podcast.
[00:03:41] Yet again, in comes Lindsay. Hey, do you want to be on my podcast? Do you want to talk about this thing with me? Yes. Yes, I do. And here we are. Unbelievable.
[00:03:51] Lindsay: The universe has jokes. But yeah, so we share the same brain in conclusion. So I'm excited and a little bit nervous for this episode.
[00:04:02] Katie: I'm a lot nervous for this episode.
[00:04:04] Lindsay: I don't know if other people are gonna, are gonna share these same thoughts with us, but I guess we'll find out.
[00:04:10] Katie: Yeah. Yeah, we will.
[00:04:12] Lindsay: I don't even know how to present this topic to the people, but you guys, this is my Roman Empire. Apparently, apparently dudes think about the Roman Empire just several times a day.
[00:04:24] I have been thinking about this several times a day lately. It actually has been less ever since I brought this up to you, to be honest, because now that I know somebody else shares these thoughts, maybe I feel like less of a psychopath about it. But this whole concept lives in my head rent free at all times.
[00:04:43] And I have an existential crisis really every day that I think about it.
[00:04:49] Katie: That feels accurate.
[00:04:50] Lindsay: Yeah, I don't, I don't really know how to present it other than it's just basically the concept of time.
[00:04:56] Katie: Yeah, actually, that's exactly what it is. . The fact that it keeps moving forever and ever.
[00:04:59] Lindsay: It's just how time works. That it doesn't stop, it just keeps going. And this is something, though, that I feel like I've always thought about. I mean, it's partially why I put my job, because I was thinking of the fact that someday I'm going to be 60 years old. And like, I'm going to have to look back on my life, you know what I mean?
[00:05:20] Katie: It's exactly why I quit my job. Yeah. It is the sole reason that I quit my job. It's because I did not want to spend all of my time sitting at a desk doing a job that I didn't love. That I didn't even care about, really. I mean, sorry to my former co workers, but like, I didn't like my job. And...I didn't want to spend all my time doing that.
[00:05:40] Lindsay: I know. And I don't know if it's because I turned 29 recently and so it's like my last year in my 20s and I'm just having an existential crisis about it. But I don't know why I've been thinking about this so much lately. It's probably that and the fact that like I'm getting married in seven months.
[00:05:57] Holy cow. Eight months. How many months is it?
[00:05:59] Katie: Six months. It's like seven ish. October would be six months. October is six months away from April.
[00:06:06] Lindsay: Probably seven months. Nope, it's six months.
[00:06:09] Katie: Girl, I know a thing. It's one thing, but I know it. It's approximately how far away October is from April.
[00:06:16] Lindsay: Anyway, it's probably the combination of those two things that are leading me to have this existential crisis again. But, I've been thinking so much lately about my childhood. I don't know why of like the fact-
[00:06:32] Katie: But not the watermelon incident.
[00:06:33] Lindsay: Not the watermelon incident-
[00:06:36] Katie: Okay, cool, that's fine.
[00:06:41] Lindsay: But, just the fact that like we can't, you can't go back in time. We're never gonna be children again.
[00:06:48] Katie: No. This is the oldest you've ever been, and the youngest you'll ever be. Conceptually, that's incredible, and also that's the scariest thing I've ever read in my life.
[00:06:59] Lindsay: Because sometimes I'm like, I mean, I remember being like a teenager and thinking that people in their 30s were old. I'm about to be in my 30s.
[00:07:08] Katie: I still feel like that teenager
[00:07:09] Lindsay: I know and then I'm like, I feel like it's like girl math because I'm like, okay I'm basically in my 30s, which means I'm almost 40, which means like I'm basically in my midlife crisis right now like
[00:07:24] Katie: I like that math
[00:07:25] Lindsay: Okay, here's what fucks me up: it's like Because I think about when I was a teenager and how I still feel like I'm a teenager and I'm like 10 years It's been more than 10 years, but like, even just thinking about 10 years, like Brendan and I started dating 11 years ago now. Yeah. Yeah. We dated September, started dating September of 2012.
[00:07:49] So it's been 11 years since we started dating, and just thinking about...
[00:07:52] Katie: Oh my god, we've been graduated from high school for that many years as well. I know. Huh, wow.
[00:07:58] Lindsay: And thinking about like, from that time till now, it feels like it went by so fast that I'm like... I know my 30s are gonna go by so like, every year feels like it goes by faster.
[00:08:07] So then it's like, okay, my 20s went by so fast, and my 30s are gonna go by even faster, and then my 40s are gonna go by even faster than that, and I'm basically 70 years old right now.
[00:08:16] Katie: I think I just watched you completely spiral out of control in your seat.
[00:08:20] Lindsay: But this is literally why I've been having an existential crisis every day of my life.
[00:08:25] Katie: Alright, for all my friends that have kids though, and I don't see them every day, and then, you know, like a month goes by and I see a picture or a video and they're suddenly a full grown human. Yeah. Same concept.
[00:08:38] Lindsay: That's what also fucks me up too, cause my nieces, I was watching a video the other day of my niece when she was a baby and I was babysitting her and I'm like, that feels like it was yesterday.
[00:08:48] She is five years old right now and like, she's only going to keep getting older. My nieces and nephews are going to grow up so fast.
[00:08:57] Katie: One of my nephews is turning one next month. Well- November, but still I I'm not, I can't, it's just- it's wild to me, I mean, I don't know. I don't know how to articulate it because it's just... The existential crisis for me stemmed when I like quit my job, right?
[00:09:18] So I am currently living off of my emergency fund, which I fully planned and prepared to do but it's like I could just, you know continue to live off of my emergency fund and simply do nothing and ride out the rest of the year and then either I have no money or I get a job. It's the concept of if I just keep going every day, like time is still going to keep moving and if I don't do anything to grow my business or to, I don't know, like bring in money of any kind, in any way, I'm going to keep going and I'm just going to continue to run out of money.
[00:09:50] The days are just, I'm going to keep getting older and I'm just also not going to have it. That's where my crisis came from. It was purely financially based, but same crisis.
[00:10:00] Lindsay: Interesting. I, I feel like we're, it's the same crisis. We're just at very different places. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Like I had that crisis a few years back and now I'm just having another one for absolutely no reason at all.
[00:10:14] Katie: Feels pretty reasonable. I mean, we're going to turn 30 and you're getting married. Like that's completely valid.
[00:10:20] Lindsay: Not, not only am I getting married, but because I'm getting married, I'm thinking about, like, am I going to have kids soon? And I think that's just completely fucking me up. Yeah. Because I'm like, I don't feel like I'm old enough to have a child, but I am very much old enough to have a child.
[00:10:35] Katie: Yeah, that's the thing. I sometimes still have that, like, oh shit reaction, and like, immediately then I'm happy, but like, that's not where I'm at in my life. So I feel like... I'm a child, like, I'm still 18, I'm still 12, I'm still, I don't know, I'm still, like, not an adult, not a fully functioning human being, and everyone around me is, is a functioning human being, I don't know, it's like, how did we get here?
[00:11:00] Lindsay: Like, does anyone...
[00:11:02] Katie: Nobody feels like they're a functioning human being. Yeah. I'm going to guarantee you that your audience, because I'm part of them.
[00:11:07] Lindsay: No, I know. I guess my audience isn't the people I want to ask, but like, are there any adults out there that feel like fully functioning adults.
[00:11:13] Katie: Do you have it on lock? Can you teach me how to do that?
[00:11:15] Lindsay: Is there an age? Do you hit 50 and you're like, yeah, I know what I'm doing? Or do you just literally go through your entire life just fucking winging it?
[00:11:24] Katie: Honestly, it feels kind of like we're all just winging it.
[00:11:27] Lindsay: I think we are. I mean, especially when you have kids, no one knows what they're doing.
[00:11:34] Katie: I don't even know what I'm doing now. I don't even know how to take care of my dog. Respectfully, good luck to my kids. Good luck to Kelvin as the father of my kids, if that ever happens. Just all of it. Good luck.
[00:11:45] Lindsay: Yeah, I don't know. It's, it's so weird. I asked Brendan this a few weeks ago and he was like, no.
[00:11:52] But if you could go back in time and just like live parts of your life again, would you?
[00:11:59] Katie: Okay, I think about this a lot. I've had a lot of weird things happen in my life. No. I would not change one single thing.
[00:12:08] Lindsay: No, not change it, just like, live it again.
[00:12:10] Katie: No, no, hmmmm.... Like, experience it all over again? Or like, hmm. I don't know.
[00:12:18] Lindsay: I guess it's tough because everyone has things that they wouldn't want to experience again. But like, in general, if you could go back and be a kid again and relive your childhood, would you?
[00:12:29] Katie: Is it going to make me a different person? Because the answer to that is no, I don't want to- I guess I'm sure I would like go back and relive moments of my childhood, sure.
[00:12:37] I can't even, I mean, like all of our family vacations, right? Like all that fun stuff, but I wouldn't change anything. I would distinctly, in fact, like, I would go the whole same messy shitty, wild ass path that I went on. Yeah. Because. Like, I'm so happy
[00:12:55] about where I am, even if it's leading me to an existential crisis about time.
[00:13:00] Honestly, like, truly, that's how I feel. I would change nothing.
[00:13:04] Lindsay: Yeah, no, same. I wouldn't change anything, but I would definitely go back and just relive my childhood. Because sometimes, here's what I think it is. I don't think I appreciated being a kid when I was a kid.
[00:13:16] Katie: No, how could you?
[00:13:17] Lindsay: Because I just wanted to grow up. And now that I'm grown up, I'm like, what the fuck?
[00:13:21] Katie: Okay, yes, that's so real. But I feel like that's what everybody experiences. We were so ready to be independent and be doing our own thing and be teenagers and then be adults. And we weren't ready for it with the rest of the responsibilities that came with it.
[00:13:37] We wanted the fun. And now we want the fun. I mean, it's the same.
[00:13:41] Lindsay: I mean, I do love my life now. I just. I don't know. I think what it is is just, yeah, I feel like I didn't appreciate the childhood that I had. And I would so go back and relive it. But there are certain parts of my life, like the time of my life when I was living in North Carolina, and I was, like, growing my business.
[00:14:01] It was like the first couple years of my business. I was living on my own. I was so present during that time of my life, and just recognizing that I was in this period of so much growth, and where I was going, and that there was going to be a day, I made a podcast episode about this at the time. There was going to be a day when I was moving back, getting a house with Brendan, and getting married, and that was just such a distinct phase of my life that I really, genuinely appreciated it while I was in it.
[00:14:32] Katie: Yeah.
[00:14:33] Lindsay: And so I don't feel like I would go back to that part of my life because I don't feel- I feel like I have like closure almost on that part of my life.
[00:14:40] Katie: Yeah.
[00:14:40] Lindsay: And then I feel like there's other parts of my life that I was just, I really wish I was more appreciative of just, I guess being a kid and not having responsibilities. Like, I don't know.
[00:14:54] Katie: Yeah. No, I can kind of relate to that. I mean, I definitely can relate to that, but I feel like, yeah, it's not like one specific moment either that I would go back to, but you're right. It's more like being a child and being able to have fun and kind of, I mean, for lack of a better do whatever I wanted.
[00:15:12] But yeah, we can still do that.
[00:15:14] Lindsay: I know. And so I'm like, I don't really know why I miss it because I can literally still do whatever I want.
[00:15:19] Katie: But, but now there's more consequences. I feel like a lot of the consequences were like, the consequences as kids are like scraping your knee or like, I don't know, breaking an arm, which is opposed to like going bankrupt. That's ridiculous, but I'm trying to, that's hyperbole, but you know what I mean?
[00:15:39] Lindsay: Like it's more serious. Yes. I don't know that I would necessarily go back to being like a child child, but I would definitely go back to like
[00:15:46] Katie: What's your age group?
[00:15:47] Lindsay: Teenager. Which is weird because that's what I asked Brendan.
[00:15:50] I think I was like, if you could go back to when we were in high school, would you? And he was like, fuck no, because he hated high school. And I was like, well, I wouldn't want to go back and have to do school, but, I would definitely go back and just be 16 again. You know what I mean?
[00:16:09] Katie: Yeah, because like, our friend group was so much fun. Yeah. I feel like we were constantly doing ridiculous things with our friends, every weekend, that's what we were doing. That's true. I don't want to be 16 again and be worried about boys or, worried about school or, I just want to have, I just want to be having fun with my friends. So I don't, I don't know if I would. Because, like, to me, the cons outweigh, like, I'm living all those things, like, the cons outweigh the pros.
[00:16:34] Lindsay: And I know that I'm definitely romanticizing a lot of things looking back on it because in reality, if I went back, I would have to be in school again and just be fucking tired all the time and wake up at 6 in the morning for no reason. Why does school start so early?
[00:16:50] Katie: Imagine, though, being a teenager now. I feel like social media was not a thing. I mean, I'm going to segue right off the concept of time. Facebook was like our thing, right? Like that was the social media that was the most prevalent when we were 16. I feel like in high school,
[00:17:07] Lindsay: it really was just Facebook.
[00:17:08] Katie: I remember when Facebook was conceptualized and became more popular.
[00:17:12] And that was when we were like, what in middle school, maybe freshmen, sophomores?
[00:17:15] Lindsay: I mean, some of the stuff that will come up on like your Facebook timehop thing...
[00:17:21] Katie: I'm unwell about it, and I'm not going to lie, 95% of it's from you. It's nonsense! I'm yelling. It's nonsense. And it's so funny to look back on, but it's so fucking silly.
[00:17:33] Lindsay: Yeah. I literally remember when I made my Facebook account, sitting in my living room, making a Facebook. Wait, not even that. I remember we had an actual family desktop computer.
[00:17:47] Katie: We did, too!
[00:17:47] Lindsay: I don't think I even had a laptop.
[00:17:49] Katie: We did too! Then my sister, has her own iPhone by th- I mean, I had a flip phone. And I wasn't allowed to text. And I texted anyway. That's where we were at, as 16 year olds. I do not because to me, like, going back am I going back to our 16 year old childhood, or am I just being 16 again now?
[00:18:07] Lindsay: Though, yeah, I would I would not want to be 16 now.
[00:18:10] Katie: No, thank you.
[00:18:12] Lindsay: That has to be so stressful. There's so much social media now. No, I would not do that. Definitely not. But literally, okay, a few months ago, I went to an appointment that I had back in our hometown and it was like, not far from my house I grew up in. Wait, first of all, it is such a wild thing when you grow up in the same house. That's the only house I, I ever remembered.
[00:18:41] My family moved there when I was, like, three, so we technically lived somewhere else for part of my life. Like, I don't remember it. I lived in that house my whole life. Your parents still live in the house that you grew up in, right?
[00:18:49] Katie: Yes.
[00:18:50] Lindsay: Yeah. My parents are divorced, as we know. But my dad, when they got divorced, my dad kept that house. And then he sold it four years ago now.
[00:19:00] Katie: Wow, really?
[00:19:01] Lindsay: And it's such a wild thing when your parents sell the house that you grew up in. It's so weird.
[00:19:07] Katie: Okay. But back to the concept of time, like four years ago?
[00:19:10] Lindsay: Yeah. I can't believe that was four years ago. I'm realizing that right now, and it's giving me another existential crisis, but it's fine.
[00:19:17] Katie: It feels like that just happened. I mean, all right. But look at like Kaitlyn, my next door neighbors for the entirety of my life, like third grade on her parents, her mom just sold that house....two years ago now? But it's already been two years? And I'm not, I'm-- really nice neighbors, by the way, but yeah.
[00:19:33] Lindsay: No, it's so weird, though, when your parents sell your childhood home because it's just like I don't know why It's such a defining moment because you're just like well fuck like that was my whole childhood. I can't just go back there and It's just very weird.
[00:19:51] But anyway, I had an appointment a few months ago near my childhood home that I grew up in. And so I decided to just go and drive by it and just see, I don't know, see what it still looks the same. Like it's still there, but I was so emotional for no reason. I was literally just, before I even got there, I was crying. I was crying the whole way there.
[00:20:16] Katie: But it's not no reason.
[00:20:17] Lindsay: No, it's not no reason, but I, I don't really know what my point was in telling the story, other than like, that's the existential crisis that I've been having, like, driving through my old neighborhood. Yeah. I'm just like, this is like, Where I was built. This is where I became who I am.
[00:20:37] Katie: Unhinged question: if you die, or when you die, and you can haunt a location, are you haunting this house that you live in with Brendan, or are you haunting your childhood home? Because that, to me, seems way better. You don't have to answer it, but I'm just thinking.
[00:20:50] Lindsay: Is Brendan still living here?
[00:20:52] Katie: Uh. Okay, potentially, like if, yeah.
[00:20:56] Lindsay: Brennan's still here, I'm absolutely haunting his ass.
[00:20:58] Katie: Okay, assuming that no, he is not, because you said he's gonna be gone potentially way sooner than you.
[00:21:05] Lindsay: I don't know. I feel like it'd be really boring to haunt someone's house that I don't know, like, if just other people are living here.
[00:21:12] Katie: Okay, but either way, it's like a house that you, it's a home you are very familiar with.
[00:21:16] Lindsay: I mean, at this point in my life, I would say my childhood home, because this house still feels like... It's not ours. No, it feels like this is not our, it feels like we've been renting an Airbnb for a year.
[00:21:27] Katie: Oh, I forgot you're so new to your home, though. You are.
[00:21:31] Lindsay: Like, we don't live here, I'm convinced. It's a simulation. It's so weird, because there are moments where I'll, I will literally say this out loud to Brendan, and he's like, Yeah, but we'll be like going to bed, and I'll just be like, we live here.
[00:21:49] Katie: That's like a high thought. That's like, you smoked a little too much. You're like vibing off of it, and you're just like, we live here.
[00:21:55] Lindsay: This is usually just fully sober, just
[00:21:58] Katie: Like a toddler.
[00:22:00] Lindsay: And I don't know why it'll happen at the weirdest times. Like the other day I was just like walking toward our dining room and there was just something about our entryway and then I could see part of our dining room table and I was just like, we own this house.
[00:22:12] This is our house. I think it's like me picturing. I also do this a lot because I can like picture when we do have a family because we bought this home, I mean, it's a four-bedroom house with the expectation that we would have kids here someday. I think it's like me seeing it from their perspective and knowing that like this is going to be their childhood home.
[00:22:33] And that's so weird.
[00:22:34] Katie: Spooky. I like that. I, we do not feel that way about our house. Fully, this was a starter home that, I bought it in the pandemic needed to get out of my apartment, was fortunate enough to have that capability. And then like that I do not relate at all, but that's really spooky in a really cool way to think about.
[00:22:51] Yes. Oh, definitely. I do.
[00:22:52] Lindsay: Cause it's so weird. I'm like, this is probably going to be the house that our kids... the way that I feel about my childhood home, they're gonna feel about this home.
[00:23:00] Katie: Yeah, and it comes full circle. Time goes on.
[00:23:04] Lindsay: Yeah, and it's so weird, and it's weird not to live there anymore. I mean, we're not that far from it, but still
[00:23:12] Katie: yeah, but I think about that all the time
[00:23:14] Lindsay: Imagine your parents sold that house; it would be so strange, right?
[00:23:19] Katie: Yeah, it would be bananas. I'm not gonna lie to you. I don't foresee that ever happening, but that's the thing; I'm sure at some point you didn't foresee that happening either, right? There's going to be some point in my life where, yeah, that...
[00:23:30] Lindsay: There's gonna be some point in your life where everything happens that you can't foresee happening.
[00:23:33] Katie: I know! Which is simultaneously really fucking exciting and really fucking scary.
[00:23:39] Lindsay: I know. I think that's what I keep freaking out about. Cause I'm like, even right now, we're planning our wedding, right? We got engaged over a year ago now. And at the time when we set our wedding date, I'm like, that's so far away.
[00:23:52] And it still kind of is, but it's going to happen very soon. And then it's going to be gone. And then we're just going to keep living our lives. And then someday, that day will be like 30 years ago.
[00:24:03] Katie: Alright, I have two things to say about that. The first being that you texted me and it was girl math about the fact that October is coming and it's going to be Halloween and then it's going to be Thanksgiving and then it's going to be Christmas and then it's going to be New Year and then suddenly it'll be April and your wedding will be here and that's... really fucking soon.
[00:24:18] Lindsay: Like, you know, my wedding's basically tomorrow.
[00:24:21] Katie: Completely true. Can confirm. But the other thing about that is just, you've seen F.R.I.E.N.D.S., you know, that there's an episode where Monica and Chandler get married. And then the next episode, she's like, it's gone. The best day of my life is gone.
[00:24:36] I'll never be a bride again. That just made me think of that episode because there, there is, there's all your hype to your wedding day is all the anticipation, live in that, love that I know you do, but. Yeah. Then it's just going to be the next thing. It's always, I feel like the next thing. That was my entire corporate career.
[00:24:54] The next thing, I'm not saying it's a bad thing necessarily. Cause it's truly not. I think that's also the concept of time, right? You're living by milestones. I guess that's birthdays to like, you're living by milestones, but it's like, Oh, remember 2020, the year of the pandemic, right? Remember the year 2022, you bought a house. I don't know.
[00:25:14] Lindsay: Are we all sure 2020 happened? Was that real?
[00:25:20] Katie: I'm still 26 years old.
[00:25:21] Lindsay: I feel like that had to be a fever dream because what the fuck was that? If
[00:25:25] Katie: You want to talk about how old I am? It's not 29. I'm I, again, I, we lost, what, three years of our lives? Two years of our lives? I mean...
[00:25:34] Lindsay: I know, that is crazy to think about. Yeah. I don't know.
[00:25:38] Katie: It's just bananas.
[00:25:38] Lindsay: It's so trippy to me to think about, like, someday, today is going to be so far in the past. And I know that sounds dumb because that's just how time works, but then, like, it's actually...
[00:25:48] Katie: The actual concept of that?
[00:25:49] Lindsay: I know...
[00:25:51] Katie: I think about being a little kid. I think about this specifically a lot. So sorry if I'm about to get weird, but I think about it; when I was a little girl, I used to wish on stars and shit. And I used to be like, I really want to be happy. That's my ultimate goal. It's just I want to be happy. Right? And I used to be like, my teenage years, maybe that's a boy that makes me happy.
[00:26:09] But I used to wish that I would end up with somebody who makes me happy. And I knew that I would not know this man. He wouldn't be in my peripheral. But, like, little me would never have imagined that she would find Kelvin. We live on the opposite sides of the state. There's no shot that like in another, in an alternate universe, like there's no shot.
[00:26:28] Lindsay: They live in Rhode Island. It's not a very big state.
[00:26:30] Katie: All right. But, like, I wish you all could see this because when you live in the top left-hand, nope, wrong top right-hand corner of the state and the bottom left, it's over an hour to get to each other. It's not that far. I mean, if you live in Texas, you have three hours to the next town.
[00:26:45] Fine. But, but my point is little me never imagined that I would like to meet this man and fall in love with him. I couldn't even have guessed that Kelvin existed, right? Of course, he did, but, again, the concept of time, I'm just thinking about all the thoughts that I had, well, maybe not all the thoughts I had when I was a kid, that, like, I don't know...
[00:27:03] Lindsay: That is real now?
[00:27:05] Katie: Yes! All right, but do we get woo-woo? And do we talk about, maybe that's manifestation? Maybe that's all the culmination of all the things that I've ever wanted and was willing to bring into my peripheral.
[00:27:15] Lindsay: But is it manifestation or is it just, is it that you, that this was always meant to happen, and so the child version of you knew that this is what you were meant for.
[00:27:26] Katie: I'm convinced that the child version of us knows a lot more than...
[00:27:30] Lindsay: I think, like...
[00:27:31] Katie: Adult version of us.
[00:27:33] Lindsay: I feel like we, yeah. We have to all be born with some...There are just so many things that have happened in my life that I'm like, this can't be a coincidence... There is something directing this shit, you know what I mean?
[00:27:47] Katie: All right, but case in point, this specific thought pattern that I had, of all of the patterns, I went to school, and I was gonna live in Boston, and I was gonna make a whole life up there, and then I dropped out of school because I didn't want to go there anymore. And, was never going to go to URI, was never going to go to that college, or that university, because everybody from our high school went there, and that was like, I don't want to go where everybody's going. Even though, by the way, it's a really big fucking school. The shot that you see somebody from your high school is really fucking slim.
[00:28:19] I'm not going to lie to you because I probably saw maybe three people outside of my friends. The point is, I'm talking to little me now, high school me when I'm saying this. I was so dead set against going there, and that's where I met Kelvin! Look what happened? Like, it's just, I don't know.
[00:28:35] Lindsay: I always think about how the tiniest decisions that we all make could drastically change our lives. But then I'm like, would they, though? Or would the universe just, like, somehow get, right? You didn't initially choose to go to URI, but maybe the universe was like, no, you idiot, you have to go to URI.
[00:28:54] Katie: You did a whole podcast episode on how you can't fuck up your life. And I've been thinking about that for a long time.
[00:29:02] Lindsay: Yeah. Cause I'm like, I don't. it's like so crazy to me how the tiniest decisions of what college you go to often decide who you end up with. You know what I mean? Like so many people meet people in college and, if you just chose to go to a different school, then you might be with a completely different person and have a completely different life.
[00:29:22] But it's like, would you or would the universe have still found a way to have you meet your person?
[00:29:27] Katie: The universe would have intervened, and I am a prime example of that.
[00:29:30] Lindsay: Yeah, no, I think so too. It's still just...
[00:29:33] Katie: Like with you and Brendan, the universe intervened, I'm convinced.
[00:29:36] Lindsay: Oh, fully. But also, yeah, I think about that a lot.
[00:29:39] I'm like, if I just didn't work at... we met, I mean, we went to school together, but we didn't really meet until we worked at the same grocery store. If I just didn't take that job or he worked at a different grocery store...
[00:29:56] Katie: You were always gonna. I mean, even with, like, PWC or even your, even working the same corporate job, even if you were in different departments, there was always going to be a moment where you, crossed paths, walked by each other on the sidewalk, and you were like, holy shit. Or, the elevator, for example, there was always going to be that moment. I firmly believe in that type of stuff.
[00:30:15] Lindsay: Yeah, I think so, too.
[00:30:17] Katie: Which is just bonkers. Thinking about it again. It's just, it's so, fucking cool.
[00:30:24] Lindsay: Yeah, but it's, you know, I cannot wrap my brain around, and I don't know if this is even if I'm just misunderstanding this concept entirely, but, I feel like a lot of people who are into quantum physics or just spirituality, maybe talk about how like time is not linear. And I'm always like, what the fuck does that mean? Because yes, it is.
[00:30:51] Katie: No, it's not.
[00:30:53] Lindsay: How is it not?
[00:30:55] Katie: I cannot debate this with you because I'm not smart enough to have that conversation. And I mean, I don't have all of the scientific or the manifestation. I don't have any knowledge of that stuff, right? I'm very surface-level. But I... There are so many different... when someone says time is not linear, there are so many different evolutions and different universes, for example, for lack of a better description, right? There are so many different things that could have happened. There could be a reality where I don't know, I went to that first college that I ever went to, and I stayed there, and I got a degree there, and then I got a master's degree, and then I went on to become a full-blown architect, right?
[00:31:31] There's a reality where that happened. That's, I think, the concept of where time is not linear.
[00:31:35] Lindsay: To me, that's more like an alternate universe type of concept.
[00:31:39] Katie: Okay, I think that that's what it means. I think. That's why I said I can't debate this with you because I don't know if that's wrong or right, but that's what I take it to mean exactly.
[00:31:48] Okay. The alternate universe thing is, like, the time is not linear. There's a time when you make this decision, and your path goes this way, and then there's that same time you make a different decision, and your path goes this way instead. The concept of there being a million Lindsay's out there that are doing all these different things, minute decisions, that, to me, is what I take the concept of time is not linear.
[00:32:07] Lindsay: That makes more sense.
[00:32:09] Katie: Somebody, somebody in the audience, chime in, tell me I'm wrong, tell me, I need to know.
[00:32:14] Lindsay: Because I feel like sometimes when people say that, they, they mean that like, you could, I don't know, I don't know what they mean. That's why it's always, I've never been able to wrap my brain around it, so it just makes me mad because I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about?
[00:32:27] I'm not smart enough to have this conversation.
[00:32:29] Katie: That's how I feel. That's how I feel. But we literally made up time. It is linear the way that we made it up. Yes, you're right. To me, at least. That's how I feel.
[00:32:38] Lindsay: But how? Because there's like physical evidence that it is linear. We only get older. It only goes in one direction. You know?
[00:32:46] Katie: Yeah.
[00:32:47] Lindsay: I get that the concept of time, we made up, but also in a very real sense, time...
[00:32:55] Katie: we made up the word Google, okay? Like, it's made up. I mean, I'm not saying that we don't get older, and we don't, like, we don't age, and thing like, the seasons don't happen, but like, I don't know, I don't
[00:33:06] Lindsay: Is that not time passing, though? What else is going on?
[00:33:11] Katie: This is so existential. Stress me out.
[00:33:15] Lindsay: We're just two idiots trying to have this really philosophical conversation.
[00:33:21] Katie: Yeah, yes. Full-blown idiot right here. It's me. Hi. I'm the problem.
[00:33:26] Lindsay: Yeah, I don't know. It fucks me up every time that comes up because, I'm just like, what, what does it mean that time isn't linear? Yes, it is. It only goes in one direction.
[00:33:36] Katie: Yeah, that argument, you're not wrong, but I don't know. I feel like, literally, yeah, in that interpretation, it is linear. You're only growing older. You're only moving forward. You're only,
[00:33:48] Lindsay: yeah, but. I don't know. I think also I've just always been hyper-aware of time passing and, like, just my own mortality, I guess. I mean, that's why, not to just get morbid real quick, not even in a dark way, but just in the sense that, life is short, you know?
[00:34:11] Katie: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:34:13] Lindsay: that's why I was 23 years old. Less than a year into my career and reevaluated my entire life. Most people don't have their life crisis until like their 40s or 50s.
[00:34:26] Katie: I feel like I had that first life crisis when I was about six or seven. No, hyper-specific. I've talked about it before on my own social media, but I have this very distinct memory of getting on the bus and going to school and being really, really fucking sad that I had to get on the bus and go to school because I didn't want to. And, okay, yes, I know, what little kid wants to go to school when they can sit at home and play with their toys and hang out with mom and dad?
[00:34:50] I get that, but it wasn't so much; I've always hated school; it's not that; it's more like I can't do the things that I want to do because I'm stuck in this structured program. Literally school. I mean, literally, like school until you're 18 and then graduate and get a job, and you're stuck in that kind of structure.
[00:35:07] I was having this existential crisis as a six-year-old, maybe not to this extent, but I've always had this kind of thought. I'm unhinged. I'm literally unhinged. But my point is it's always been sort of that... I don't, I don't know how to articulate it. I don't. I don't.
[00:35:25] Lindsay: It's just like self, hyper self-awareness.
[00:35:28] Katie: Yeah, yeah, really heightened self-awareness about the fact that like, I'm doing things that I don't want to do that I have to do because I'm stuck in this cycle of, all right, you get up, you go to school. Cause I mean, what was the alternative, right? My parents are going to homeschool me. That was not an option.
[00:35:42] So I had to go to school because, legally, my parents were required to put me there. It would; the world would be chaos. I understand why there are these structures, I do. I sound like a conspiracy theorist, I think, a little bit, but I've just always a little bit had that nagging self-awareness of this is some shit that I don't want to be doing.
[00:36:02] And I ignored it for fucking 30 years of my life until, well, 29 years of my life until just recently when I quit my job because I was like, I can't foresee myself doing this. For another 30 years. I can't. I mean, I don't want, I don't want to do this for another 30 years. I'm out.
[00:36:20] Lindsay: I know. And I feel like that's something most people don't think about until they get to the middle of their life.
[00:36:26] And then they realize, I'm 50 years old. What the fuck am I doing? But for some reason, we both just had that realization as basically children. Yeah. Now, mine was definitely later, but still, being in your early 20s, it's not something... I think more people now in our generation are thinking about it. I don't know why that is. I don't know what's going on with the universe, but it's not normally something people would think about that young.
[00:36:52] Katie: I'd be willing to hedge bets that it's a millennial thing or a Gen Z thing. Way more than it's a, I don't know.
[00:36:57] Lindsay: Oh, definitely.
[00:36:58] Katie: I also feel like it's different; I mean, our parents, my parents were raised by people who went through the Great Depression. That mentality is vastly different than our childhood being raised by our parents. I don't know it's a totally different way of being brought up the things that you pass on to your kids are going to be vastly different than the things that your dad passed on to you or your mom passed on to you; it's just different. So, I feel like millennials, as a general group, watched our parents go through like I watched my mom hate her job. Well, I shouldn't say that because I watched my mom slowly grow to hate her job for a lot of the bullshit reasons that like come with any job, I'm sure. I know you watched your mom do the same thing. She didn't like her job. So I didn't, I didn't want to do that. I mean, simply put, I didn't want to do that. I didn't want to - didn't want my kids to watch me hate my job steadily. I didn't want to hate my job. Frankly, that's point blank. Yeah. So here we are.
[00:37:57] Lindsay: I know. I just always think about that because people ask me, they're like, what triggered you to want to quit? Expecting the answer to be something that happened at my job. And I'm like, no, it was just all my own internal spiraling thoughts about my own mortality. Essentially what it boils down to.
[00:38:17] Katie: Yeah. I couldn't keep having the same conversation with Kelvin and talking about how unhappy I was, and just, I couldn't keep talking about it. I couldn't keep like having that same conversation with him and just saying the same things about how I was so unhappy and do nothing.
[00:38:32] Lindsay: Yeah. And just watch your life keep happening. Yeah. Time keeps passing. It's so weird to think about. You're never going to get the time back, not in a bad way, because I think everything happens how it's supposed to in the time that it's supposed to, but it's like, you're never going to get the time back that you spend in a job you hate. That's just part of your life that you just were not happy, and you can't change that. You can't go back. We're never going to get September of 2023 ever again.
[00:39:03] Katie: Right. And I won't say that I regret any of the time I spent in my corporate career either. Because I spent, what, 7 years growing with that company, started from the store moved up in all...
[00:39:15] Lindsay: You did that for 7 years?
[00:39:16] Katie: Yeah, dude. It was, and I've seen all of it too. I started at the stores and then moved into a different flavor of corporate and then moved into a second different flavor of, like I've seen it all, and I don't regret any of it because, at every point, it's what I needed or thought that I wanted.
[00:39:32] Like this now is the same thing. Like I could, in six months or a year decide entrepreneurship is not for me. I hate it. I'm bad, I don't know. I could just change my mind. It's okay to do that. We have free will. We're adults. We're not the same kids wanting to do whatever the hell we want. We're adults who can do whatever the hell we want.
[00:39:50] Lindsay: Is that a good thing? Sometimes that's not a good thing..
[00:39:52] Katie: Okay, maybe it's not... That's a podcast for an entirely different day.
[00:39:56] Lindsay: It's dangerous that I have the freedom to do whatever I want. Oh, anyway.
[00:40:00] Katie: Yeah. No. That's true. But yeah, I don't regret any of the things, any of the choices that I made or any of the, I won't even say it's time wasted because I wanted it at the time.
[00:40:12] So I started at the store, and I was working a retail schedule. That shit sucks. If you know, you know, right? Working every weekend, closing every Friday and, Saturday, and Sunday sucked. I had no time to hang out with my friends. And being in my, I don't know, early 20s, I was like, this is awful.
[00:40:28] So I moved into a corporate career, and I loved having weekends that I could count on. That I could actually hang out with my friends. Because all my friends were already working in corporate. And I just didn't want to do that at the time when we graduated. Or I knew that I didn't want to be a landscape architect anymore, right?
[00:40:43] And then I knew that I really didn't like the job that I was working. So, I wanted something else that was more design-related. That's my creative brain that scratched that itch but wasn't ultimately what I wanted. I don't regret any of it. Yeah. It's not wasted time. I mean, I'm still bitter about 2020, but...
[00:41:01] Lindsay: I know it's like, it's not wasted time, but there's also just this feeling of like, I, I could have used that time better.
[00:41:08] Katie: Oh, I have those thoughts too. There's a lot of things that to go back to your, would you, like, would you relive anything again? Like, no, but I, and I don't, I wouldn't change anything because obviously, I'm really happy, if this lands me where I'm at today, then I'm good with it. But yeah, there are some moments where I'm like, well, if I was younger and I knew what I know now, I'd be thriving, I would be an entirely different person.
[00:41:33] I had to learn. I had to go through all that stupid shit to learn what I know now.
[00:41:36] Like if I, yeah.
[00:41:37] Lindsay: Yeah. Uh, what a time. Do you think there was, like, something that triggered you to just be hyper-self-aware from six years old? Are we just born with these thoughts? Why are we like this?
[00:41:52] Katie: That's what I previously said, though. I think children are in a lot of ways, smarter, more intuitive, more knowledgeable than adults because we get bogged down.
[00:42:00] And that sounds really woo-woo, but go with me. That we get bogged down in the day-to-day responsibilities of, you know, owning a house, having to take care of parents and kids, and all this other adult shit. Think about the kids who, like, see ghosts and shit like that, or... That's so left field of me, but I really think that little kids are way more intuitive with like there, what do you want to call it, spiritual side, than...
[00:42:26] Lindsay: No, I think so too, because we, we're conditioned to let go of that because we're put in this structure of you go to school and you have to like to sit down for six-- how long is a school day? I don't even know anymore. .
[00:42:42] Katie: Eight hours a day?
[00:42:43] Lindsay: Yeah. But like, like you're just sitting down learning something that somebody else is telling you you have to learn, and you're not really able to just explore the world and how you naturally would have and what you're naturally inclined to wanna do.
[00:42:57] In some ways, yes. And I think for some people they're able to do that in their childhood, but I don't think I really... Maybe this is why I want to go back and be a kid because I don't think I really have to just be a kid and just listen to my own instincts of what I want to do today.
[00:43:15] It was always just like my day was decided for me. And that's how I literally lived my life until I got to college. I was just doing what somebody else was telling me I was supposed to do. Until I started my career and had the freedom to decide for myself. And then I was like, fuck, I don't want to be doing this.
[00:43:33] How did I even get here? I literally never stopped to think, do I even want to be an accountant? It was just everyone was telling me this is what you should do. So I just did it. I didn't even consider the option of not going to college. Cause that was just what you do. You just graduate high school, and then you go to college.
[00:43:49] You know what I mean? So much of my life, I was kind of just living on autopilot almost and just doing what I was told I should be doing, and I wonder what the world would be like if we just let kids be kids and explore what they naturally are interested in, you know?
[00:44:08] Katie: Yeah, that's a good point.
[00:44:09] Lindsay: That's so weird to think about. Cause like we made up school, like,
[00:44:14] Katie: well, yeah, I mean, if you think about when school is, I guess only the winter months of the year, for lack of a better, because like we were, we all used to be farm kids, and we all used to have to tend to crops and take care of things like that.
[00:44:29] There's a reason for that structure, and we just stuck with it forever. But, yeah, imagine if we, I don't know, didn't.
[00:44:36] Lindsay: Yeah.
[00:44:36] Katie: Yeah. For lack of a better way to describe that. But yeah, imagine if there wasn't, like, But that's the thing, it's like, we, like, Then what are those kids doing? Taking care of cattle and things like that. There's still some sort of requirement that, I don't know. Now I'm getting way too into the weeds.
[00:44:53] Lindsay: We don't need another crisis.
[00:44:55] Katie: No, and it's not even, I've decided, though, that my 30s are going to be my era where I live way more intentionally, and I think that's, I'm noticing that that comes up on a lot of my social media and I don't know if I'm projecting that out into the universe or if that's just a consensus from all millennials. We're just going to be way more intentional with our fucking time now.
[00:45:13] Lindsay: No, I think, I mean, that's how I felt when I quit my job. That was my 20s for me. It was I'm going to be really intentional about how I spend my time which is more important to me than how much money I am making.
[00:45:27] It still is.
[00:45:29] Katie: Yeah. No, that's exactly how I feel. Cause one of the huge things about quitting my job for me was just simply being able to do whatever the fuck I want. And that exclusively translates to going to have lunch with my parents on a Friday afternoon because I can, or going to visit my grandmother whenever the hell I want because she's in her eighties, and I fucking love that woman. How long is she going to have left on the planet? Who fucking knows. I'm not willing to find out. I want to hang out with her as much as I can. That's the kind of shit that, if I'm working a corporate job, I can't do. Yeah. Like, if I ever have to go back, that's fine. But, like, these are things that I'm not willing to sacrifice.
[00:46:03] I'm not willing to miss out on. Like, it's the concept of time pushing me out the door of the corporate world. Bye. We'll see you later.
[00:46:12] Lindsay: I mean, that's part of why I moved, on the opposite end of life is that's why I moved to North Carolina. My brother had just started having kids, and I was devastated by the thought of my niece; at the time, he only had one. So my niece, who was a literal infant, not knowing who I am, for me to just miss out on her whole childhood, and in a lot of ways, I still am. It was really hard for me to move back, and I don't regret it, but if I think too hard about how much of my time I don't get to see them, I will literally start crying. It's really hard for me to know that I'm missing out.
[00:46:59] And I don't feel like I am really. Cause I mean, we FaceTime all the time, they know who I am, but it was really hard for me to think about. It's time you can't get back. My niece is never going to be five years old again. And if I'm not present for them growing up, then I just missed out on it, and there's no way to get it back.
[00:47:20] Katie: Yeah, no, it's the day-to-day things that I think that's the concept of time. It's all the day-to-day things. It's all the really little shit that it is; it's the day-to-day little shit that comes up that you don't. Shavings become a pile, right? It's all the tiny things that become whole that make your whole life. And that's what I feel like. I don't want to miss out on that shit.
[00:47:45] Lindsay: Yeah, because otherwise, you're just going through every day, but you're not really living your life. You're just existing. Oh, man. Now I'm going to start crying about how I don't see my family ever, but then it's also like, okay, I'm so torn because, like, my dad's up here, and my dad is old. My dad is older than most dads my age. My dad is 77. He's 77. Yeah. So, my dad's up here, and I'm really glad that I'm now able to see him more because I would hate to miss out on the end of his life. Not that I think he's near the end of his life, but you know what I mean.
[00:48:28] Katie: Same concept as my grandmother. I don't think she's anywhere close to the end of her life, and I still want to spend all the time I can with her. You should still want to spend all the time with your dad that you can. Like, same, yeah.
[00:48:36] Lindsay: And then I have to choose because then, the rest of my family is in North Carolina, and I'm like, I can't spend time with both of you guys. Why the fuck did you move to North Carolina?
[00:48:46] Katie: Rude. Honestly.
[00:48:47] Lindsay: Truly.
[00:48:48] Katie: Just kidding.
[00:48:49] Lindsay: Truly making my life hard. Oh, man. But yeah, it's so, it's sad on both. I hate the idea of just missing out on time because you can't get it back. It's just gone. And that concept is literally why I quit my job because I was like, there's nothing to me that is worse than that idea of just missing out on my life because I'm just going to this job that I hate every day. What is the point?
[00:49:17] Katie: Yeah, no, that's exactly it in a nutshell, it's just missing out on time.
[00:49:26] Lindsay: I think, now that I'm thinking about it, because I've been trying to figure out why I always have thought about this, even from a young age, I don't know if this is necessarily why, but I think I also was hyper aware of death at a young age because my dad is older.
[00:49:44] So my grandparents were. I don't have any memories of my grandmother being younger than like 90 years old. She's, she always was old to me. And so we're like my, my dad's aunts and uncles. And so, I mean, they all passed when I was a teenager. So from a pretty young age, I mean, obviously some people experience death at a very young age, which sucks.
[00:50:12] But when I was a teenager, there were a few years in a row where my great aunt died, and a couple of years later, my grandfather died, and then a couple of years later, my uncle died, and then my great aunt and my grandmother died, a few months apart from each other. So I think also, I mean, and I think the fact that,, they were all just old, it's how life goes, but I think it made me hyper aware of, that's how life goes.
[00:50:42] Yeah, there's going to be a day where it ends. And so we have to make the most of our lives because this is all we have. And it's really not that long.
[00:50:52] Katie: No, it's so freaking short in the grand scheme of things.
[00:50:57] Lindsay: And my grandmother, well, my great aunt lived to 105, first of all, which is absurd. So, honestly, with the longevity in my family, I might live pretty long. I think about this a lot. Cause okay. Women naturally have a longer lifespan than men, but also my family's longevity is a lot longer than Brendan's family. And I just know for a fact he's dying first. I'm outliving Brendan by potentially, honestly, 20 to 30 years.
[00:51:27] Katie: That's my grandmother right now. My grandfather has been passed for 20 years.
[00:51:31] Lindsay: That's so wild to think about. That's like my whole life that I've lived right now. I will have another of this life, just without Brendan, most likely. Unless I die in an accident.
[00:51:45] Katie: Knock on wood, we're just gonna not put that out there.
[00:51:47] Lindsay: But that's also wild.
[00:51:49] Katie: Yeah, it's crazy.
[00:51:53] Lindsay: I might live to be older than 100 years old. There's actually a very high possibility that I will.
[00:51:59] Katie: Catch you on the other side then because I'm for sure, like, 90s at best. I don't know. I don't know. But think about the concept of a human life. A hundred years is a very small finite amount of time for the lifespan of the entire fucking universe, like the Milky Way, the galaxy, whatever.
[00:52:20] Lindsay: It feels so long when you're a teenager or in your 20s, but then... someday I'm going to hit 50 and be like, I'm halfway there. Potentially, probably more than halfway there for most people.
[00:52:34] Katie: Yeah, it's fucking wild. There's no other way that I can describe it. It's bonkers. It's crazy. It's wild. It's bananas. These are my adjectives and that's just the way that I feel. Yeah, this shit's crazy. It's so fun, but it's so fucking crazy.
[00:52:48] Lindsay: Well, I'm glad that...We share the same brain. Is anyone still here? Is anyone still listening?
[00:52:51] Katie: I wonder if anybody else feels the way we feel. Is anyone out there? Wait, what is it from Titanic? Is anyone alive out there? Can anyone hear me?
[00:53:03] Lindsay: I know. Okay. Anyway. We should wrap this up before we keep spiraling. But thank you for coming on. Tell the people where they can find you.
[00:53:10] Katie: Thanks for having me! Oh, all of my social media is Katie Meegs, very simple and easy to find.
[00:53:18] Lindsay: Yay. Slide into our DMs. Tell her that you want her to come on the podcast again.
[00:53:23] Katie: It'll be really fun.
[00:53:24] Lindsay: We can do more of these. Alrighty. That's a wrap for this unhinged episode. Hope you guys liked it. Hope it wasn't too unhinged.
[00:53:34] Katie: Bye everybody.
[00:53:36] Lindsay: Bye.
[00:53:38] Katie: Testing, testing, testing. Testing, testing, testing.
[00:53:43] Lindsay: I think I would be a really cute pregnant person if I'm just being honest.
[00:53:48] Katie: I don't think I should ever speak about pregnancy.
[00:53:52] Lindsay: Alright, my loves, thank you so much for tuning in. If you're looking for more content to help you leave your 9 to 5, make money online, and create a life of freedom doing work you love, come out with me on social media. You can find me at @lindsaymhanson on Instagram and on TikTok.
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